Ukraine desires extra Western weapons for assaults on Russian territory.
Moscow and NATO have so-called pink traces that, if breached, may probably set off an outright struggle between them.
The battle in Ukraine now includes many nations as Kyiv makes use of Western weapons in Russian territory.
So are these pink traces shifting? And is there a larger danger of a wider struggle?
Presenter: Folly Bah Thibault
Friends:
Dmitry Babich – deputy international editor of the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper in Moscow
Peter Zalmayev – govt director of the Eurasia Democracy Initiative in Kyiv
Ben Aris – editor of bne IntelliNews in Berlin