Aldo Maria Valli Interview with Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò | The Gateway Pundit

ALDO MARIA VALLI INTERVIEW WITH
ARCHBISHOP CARLO MARIA VIGANÒ
FOR DUC IN ALTUM WEBSITE
February 16, 2025

Duc in Altum: Your Excellency, the Trump Administration’s determination to place a cease to the immigration insurance policies of the woke Left was a part of the electoral platform that introduced Donald Trump to victory. Together with closing the borders with Mexico, the President has lower the funds that authorities companies have been allocating to people, organizations, and entities in change for his or her motion in help of globalism. To the voices of condemnation for these political selections – selections which can be utterly reliable – is now added that of Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who in his Letter to the Bishops of the US of America has harshly expressed his condemnation of the “mass deportation” selected by the US authorities.

Carlo Maria Viganò: Like all the pieces that comes out of Bergoglio’s mouth, these accusations in opposition to the Trump authorities are false and delusional. There isn’t any “mass deportation” occurring. Relatively, there’s a exactly centered determination to place an finish to the floods of unregulated immigrants that earlier Administrations had deliberate, favored, and inspired. Actually, deportation occurred in the other way in the course of the Clinton, Obama, and Biden Administrations, excluding a priori focused worldwide cooperation initiatives to assist populations in want of their respective international locations of origin, as an alternative focusing each effort – even when it was in opposition to the legislation – to extend the ethnic substitution plan. Those that are actually tearing their clothes accomplish that solely as a result of their profitable enterprise has been put to an finish. They’ve shamefully profited from this pressured migration which was made doable by the community of worldwide organizations and arranged crime that handle human trafficking.

Bergoglio’s letter is a jumble of falsehoods and deceptions. It betrays the panic of the mercenaries and the anger of their financiers. Bergoglio has gone as far as to invent a brand new doctrine, imposing as an ethical responsibility “the reception of immigrants,” from whose administration he obtains billions in public funding and thru which he accredits himself as the principle interlocutor of the globalist elite and executor of the woke agenda. He exploits the educating of Pius XII – decontextualizing and distorting his phrases – as a result of by quoting a Pope not suspected of modernist or conciliar contamination, he hopes to achieve the eye and help of these trustworthy who don’t hearken to him.

We have to perceive Bergoglio’s fraudulent operation: he needs to take the battle between the immigrationist-woke deep church and the Trump Administration to the subsequent stage, “dogmatizing” the responsibility to welcome unlawful immigrants and thus forcing American Catholics to see Trump as an enemy of the Catholic Church. In brief, he’s attempting, in line with his attribute modus operandi, to show President Trump into an adversary in an effort to undermine his help from Catholic voters. This dishonest operation additionally serves to place again on the heart of the American political and social debate an Episcopate that has been extensively discredited as a result of sexual and monetary scandals which have thus far seen it completely subservient to the institution of the Democratic Occasion. The true conflict is between Trump’s political conservatism – MAGA – with which nearly all of Individuals, together with Catholics, establish, and the ultra-progressivism of the Bergoglian deep church.

American Catholics, nevertheless, have seen by the fraud! Whereas Bergoglio, in obedience to his globalist masters, hurls anathemas in opposition to those that “construct partitions,” President Trump has introduced – amongst different measures that we welcome with deep satisfaction – the return of the US to the Geneva Consensus Declaration, which defends the precise to life for all, reaffirms the significance of the household, and affirms that there isn’t a worldwide “proper” to abortion.

DiA: Due to Trump, the Ukrainian disaster can also be being resolved…

CMV: The peace talks that President Trump has undertaken with President Putin to heal the battle in Ukraine – which started again in 2014 with the regime change that was imposed by the Anglo-American deep state – will put an finish to a bloodbath that, for the sake of satisfying the thirst for energy of the globalist elite, has despatched hundreds and hundreds of harmless folks to the slaughter, destroyed a complete nation, fueled the market of organ harvesting (as reported by worldwide companies) and precipitated a disastrous impoverishment of European nations as a result of outrageous sanctions imposed in opposition to the Russian Federation.

DiA: On sure points, Francis Bergoglio doesn’t appear as delicate as he’s on welcoming…

CMV: It’s stunning how Bergoglio’s appeals on the “infinite dignity of all” stubbornly exclude defenseless kids massacred by abortion, victims of organ harvesting and mutilation for so-called gender transitioning, moms used as merchandise for surrogate motherhood, younger folks corrupted by woke perversions, and the lots of minors who gasoline the prostitution racket or find yourself in a Beverly Hills villa to fulfill the execrable depravities of the pedophile elite.

DiA: If Bergoglio have been actually Catholic, he can be praising Trump’s social insurance policies, as an alternative of ideologically condemning them.

CMV: The newly appointed bishop of Detroit has proposed canonical sanctions – from a ban on receiving Communion to excommunication – for border guards who don’t permit unlawful immigrants to violate the borders. This woke delirium typical of the Bergoglian church is much more critical within the face of the silence of the Bishops on the scandal of a corrupt self-styled “Catholic” President like Joe Biden, who promoted abortion up-to-the-minute of beginning and but was constantly sacrilegiously admitted to Communion.

DiA: In what manner has Pius XII’s Apostolic Structure Exsul Familia been inappropriately cited by Bergoglio?

CMV: The “magisterium” of the Bergoglian church is completely self-referential: Bergoglio virtually solely cites himself, and when he cites paperwork from Vatican II and post-conciliar Popes it is just so he can surpass them. Seeing Pius XII cited by Bergoglio ought to due to this fact arouse a greater than reliable suspicion, confirmed in reality additionally by a fast studying of Exsul Familia. The apostolic zeal of Pope Pius XII – in addition to his Predecessors – just isn’t restricted to a mere indication of the necessity to welcome floods of immigrants, however focuses in the beginning on the care of the souls of Catholics who’ve been pressured emigrate attributable to famine, warfare, or non secular persecution. Even when the nice financial migrations of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries have been pushed by the identical worldwide lobbies, shifting populations from the South of Europe to the North, or from Europe to the Americas, we can not neglect that the historic context of the post-war interval was very completely different from the present one, initially as a result of the Catholic Church was not – nor might She ever have been – an ally and confederate of Freemasonry. She was relatively a agency and brave protector of the poor and the weak. Secondly, as a result of immediately the assault on our civilization is way more violent and open than it was on the finish of the Second World Conflict.

Pius XII wrote:

Holy Mom Church, impelled by her ardent love of souls, and impatient to meet the duties inherent in her mandate of salvation for all mankind, a mandate entrusted to her by Christ. She has been particularly cautious to supply all doable non secular care for pilgrims, aliens, exiles, and migrants of each type. This work has been carried out mainly by clergymen who, in administering the Sacraments and preaching the Phrase of God, have labored zealously to strengthen the Religion of these Christians and to deepen the bonds of charity. (Const. Ap. Exsul Familia, 1 August 1952, n. 5) .^[1]

DiA: Particularly non secular care…

CMV: The very final thing that Bergoglio ever pursues is the protection of the integrity of the Religion or the salvation of souls. Nor does he actually care in regards to the poor: simply take a look at what number of homeless persons are camped across the Vatican and underneath Bernini’s Colonnade; again within the period of Covid, in an effort to get a meal they needed to present that that they had acquired the vaccine. The ugly bronze boat erected in Saint Peter’s Sq. is a monument to Bergoglio’s hypocrisy. For him, the poor and the marginalized are a mere software to “crossbreed” each the social and ecclesial cloth – that’s, to dissolve it – and thus get hold of the definitive cancellation of what stays of Christian Society after a long time of secularization. Bergoglio “thinks massive” – he needs to create the premises for the New Faith of Humanity, deluding himself that he can preside over it and thus carve out a job for himself within the New World Order. As a prophet of syncretistic, ecological, and inclusive globalism, Bergoglio even made an look on the Sanremo Pageant to launch John Lennon’s tune Think about, the Masonic manifesto of the New Order.

The Apostolic Structure of Pope Pius XII is of a completely reverse tenor to this horizontal imaginative and prescient, as is the whole Catholic Magisterium in comparison with the Bergoglian one. In Exsul Familia, Pius XII recollects the slave commerce by the hands of usurers in America (n. 11), and he mentions the hazards to which Mexicans have been uncovered when fleeing the anticlerical and Masonic revolution (1926-1929), having change into the prey of the enemies of Christ (ibid. 54). Bergoglio’s perspective in direction of persecuted Christians is sort of completely different: with the key settlement made with the communist regime of Beijing, he has handed over Chinese language Catholics to be slaughtered, and he stays silent on the violations of their basic human rights.

In Bergoglio’s dystopian imaginative and prescient – anti-human, anti-Christian and antichristic – our nations are lands set aside for Mohammedan conquest: that is the aim of conciliar ecumenism. Based on the Koran, wherever the decision of the muezzìn resounds and the place the “prayer carpet” is unfold is Islamic territory. The connivance of the Bergoglian clergy, who host imams in our church buildings and permit such prayer within the parvises of our cathedrals, constitutes a betrayal of Christ and of the trustworthy. Regulated immigration, in which there’s true integration and by which the Catholic Church is dedicated to changing pagans to the true Religion, is the very last thing Bergoglio needs: the aim of the invasion is to not assist the dispossessed and the poor, however relatively to import poverty, social chaos, and civil warfare into our cities. And if globalism helps Bergoglio, it’s as a result of he’s one among its emissaries, obedient to the orders given to him.

What we’re witnessing is in reality a pressured migration, which impoverishes the nations of origin of so many males and younger individuals who might be making their very own governments sturdy and their very own nations affluent. As an alternative, they’re remodeled into criminals, slaves, and victims of the vile trafficking of perverts or of the organ harvesting market. A whole bunch of hundreds of minors disappear into skinny air yearly, with the complicity of those that pervert Christian charity within the culpable counterfeiting of “welcoming” in an effort to make a revenue.

DiA: To say nothing of the issue of the low beginning price in Western international locations…

CMV: The demographic lower, which has been deliberately created by insurance policies that discourage the beginning price and penalize the pure household, constitutes the principle objective of the motion of the globalist elite, for which it proposes as an answer ethnic substitute with lots of foreigners. In 2015 (here) Bergoglio mentioned: “There are those that imagine that to be good Catholics we should be like rabbits.” Immediately (here) he argues that the demographic decline of Western international locations should be fought not with clever insurance policies of safety of the pure household and dignified working situations, however with open borders and the institutionalization of that blended race so expensive to the Archbishop emeritus of Milan Cardinal Scola^[2] and theorized by the neo-Malthusian eugenicist Freemason Kalergi because the center of the final century. Not Catholic kids in Catholic lands, however relatively an intentional creation of mestizo kids who’re with out historical past, with out custom, with out training nor tradition, with out identification, with out homeland, and with out religion, exploited to feed the globalist Moloch and the tyranny of the World Financial Discussion board.

Bergoglio’s globalist dystopia goals on the erasure of nationwide and ethnic identities, particularly the place they’re based on Christian civilization, and as an alternative promotes something linked to pagan and idolatrous beliefs. The cancellation of all variations and the exterior homologation of cultures must be thought of by the Catholic Church as a catastrophe, whereas the Bergoglian Church is recklessly selling it.

DiA: Immediately we’re discovering that the whole international media system has been funded by USAID and different authorities companies.

CMV: What has been rising in the US since President Trump’s inauguration is just the tip of the iceberg of an enormous subversive system that includes all Western states. These are usually not remoted instances of corruption, however a deliberate occupation that the globalist Left considers indispensable in an effort to acquire energy and, as soon as it has appropriated that energy, use it for the institution of a totalitarian regime. And what’s paradoxical and on the similar time unprecedented is that the deep state even goes as far as to make its victims – that’s, all of us – pay the prices of this infernal undertaking, utilizing taxpayers’ cash to restrict us in our houses, deprive us of our freedom, and exterminate us with wars, famines, pandemics, and vaccines. In the identical manner, the deep church makes use of the choices of the trustworthy to unfold heresies, normalize vice and perversion, Islamize Christian nations, desecrate our church buildings and altars, and persecute dissenting voices with suspensions and excommunications.

DiA: How can the elite obtain the targets they’ve set for themselves?

CMV: Via conditions of everlasting disaster that legitimize the authority to derogate from extraordinary legal guidelines. If we wish to create an emergency as a pretext to legitimize the ceding of sovereignty to non-public lobbies, it’s vital that those that function the institutional and media machine have a direct curiosity in selling the disaster, even when they know completely effectively that it’s a fraud. Governments, politicians, journalists, judges, docs, academics, legislation enforcement, actors and singers, intellectuals and influencers, bishops, clergymen and even the one who claims to be “the pope”: all of them rely for his or her help on their energetic collaboration with the deep state. They’re paid as mercenaries, and as mercenaries they haven’t any different grasp than cash, success, and energy; and in addition those that permit them to have that cash, that energy. On the high of the infernal globalist pyramid that makes use of those mercenaries we discover the Luciferian delirium of those that wish to do Evil, in opposition to God and in opposition to man, searching for to interchange God with Devil and man with the androgynous humanoid.

This international community of corruption has served – and partially nonetheless serves, particularly in Europe – to change social dynamics in a felony and fraudulent manner. Such undue and unprecedented interference can not merely be recognized and acknowledged: it should even be eradicated and punished, as a result of it’s on the root of an induced and deliberate disaster from which it’s in any other case not possible to flee. And after I say “eradicated and punished,” I’m referring primarily to these accountable, to those that have been responsible of a betrayal that’s on the origin of the ethical, social, and financial decay that’s being forcibly imposed on us. It’s now not doable to tolerate that Soros, Gates, Schwab, Obama, the Clintons, the Bidens, Bergoglio and his acolytes, and different conspirators proceed to rage in opposition to the entire of humanity, over people who find themselves largely unaware that they’re the item of a diabolical experiment of social engineering aimed toward their bodily and ethical extermination. If President Trump goals to chop off the top of the Leviathan, as he’s already doing, we are able to solely be completely satisfied and at last breathe a sigh of reduction.

DiA: How do you suppose Donald Trump can contribute to the demolition of the deep state? Do you suppose he will be profitable?

CMV: The Trump administration is effectively conscious of two issues. First, there’s a subversive supranational energy that constitutes a concrete menace to the sovereignty of countries and to all humanity. Second, there’s a group of individuals and companies that help this energy as a result of they derive a bonus from it when it comes to energy and cash. Chopping off funds to the accomplices of the globalist felony system and its deep energy means depriving the elite of the instrument of management and propaganda. Not even Judas would have betrayed Christ with out receiving the thirty items of silver from the Sanhedrin: with out the pretium sanguinis, the motivation to commit crime can also be misplaced, and with it the blackmail of those that are mentioned to have dedicated it. A wonderful transfer, due to this fact, which is already having vital repercussions on the international stage, has been the interruption of USAID’s funding, accompanied by the grotesque jeremiads of those that have been dutifully disadvantaged of it (I’m pondering of these of activist James Martin, S.J.).

DiA: Talking of jeremiads: the phrases of condemnation uttered by the ultra-progressive American Episcopate and all their supporters are not possible to quantity.

CMV: The phrases of American cardinals and bishops talking in opposition to the lower in donations to the so-called welfare companies of the Catholic Church are steeped in hypocrisy and falsehood. They arrive from characters who haven’t wasted one phrase – nay, not even one syllable – in opposition to the insurance policies selling abortion, gender ideology, surrogate parenthood, euthanasia, and homosexuality of earlier Administrations within the fingers of the Democrats, whereas they get up from their vile torpor solely when a brake is placed on unlawful immigration, for which the deep church receives billions from the treasury.

DiA: How do you choose the financial dependence of Bishops’ Conferences, Dioceses, Spiritual Orders, ecclesiastical our bodies and “Catholic” NGOs on funding from the US Company for Worldwide Growth (USAID)?

CMV: Bergoglio preaches together with his phrases a “poor church for the poor,” understanding full effectively that the liberty to which the Catholic Church is entitled – and which is on the foundation of the necessity for her independence, together with the monetary independence of her organs – is totally incompatible with its financial dependence on the State.

An NGO is exactly a non-governmental group: it can’t be impartial if it is determined by the funding that the federal government gives it. It’s actually good and correct for the State to assist and encourage the social motion of the Catholic Church, however it’s equally true that at a time when ecclesiastical entities – each central or peripheral – are now not supported by the choices of the trustworthy however by the sponsorship of presidency companies and personal entities, the Church turns into pressured to observe the agendas dictated by those that permit her to exist and function.

The financial dependence of the establishment is made doable by the corruption and blackmail of its leaders, as a result of if the Catholic Church have been ruled by good, incorruptible, and non-blackmailable pastors, they’d by no means settle for her enslavement to the pursuits of an influence that’s brazenly enemy of Christ, nor would they permit themselves to be purchased out of thirst for cash or profession ambitions. That’s the reason it’s indispensable that the establishment which is to be corrupted ought to in flip be ruled by corrupt folks; and this is applicable indifferently to the civil and ecclesial spheres.

To substantiate this, it is sufficient to recall the chilling impact brought on by the menace to revoke a billion {dollars} of funding to Ukraine – reported by Joe Biden himself – in an effort to cease the Legal professional Normal’s investigation into his son Hunter.

DiA: We’re speaking about an institutional community – maneuvered by the Anglo-American deep state – that for many years has secretly paid hundreds and hundreds of organizations, associations, journalists, politicians and different public figures to shamelessly misinform billions of individuals, making a distorted narrative in order to induce the inhabitants to simply accept, underneath menace of impending catastrophes and emergencies, what it could by no means have accepted underneath regular situations. You’ve gotten spoken of the hyperlink of pursuits and complicity between the deep state and the deep church since 2020, and immediately the information in regards to the interference of USAID and different authorities companies within the politics of the whole Western world confirms the veracity of your phrases. What are the implications we are able to draw from all this?

CMV: The primary plain actuality, nevertheless horrible and stunning, is the complicity of the Bergoglian Church with the felony system organized by the globalist elite: we should take be aware that the betrayal of the rulers in direction of their fellow residents is mirrored by the betrayal of the Pastors in direction of their flock. This locations the whole ruling class, that’s subservient to the globalist elite, in a situation of illegitimacy – I’d even say of excessive treason – to which justice should be carried out.

DiA: The Jesuit Refugee Service (JRS) receives greater than $35 million yearly for its U.S. headquarters alone from USAID and different federal companies.

CMV: If the cuts determined by the Trump Administration are literally inflicting the overall interruption of humanitarian support from these pseudo-charitable entities, this additionally signifies that the trustworthy don’t approve of them in even the slightest manner with any monetary help. If that is true, it appears to me that the ideological line imposed on residents by the deep state and on the trustworthy by the deep church has amply demonstrated their tyrannical nature.

The present President of the Italian Bishops’ Convention, Matteo Zuppi, will quickly perceive that this obstinacy of the bishops in supporting the acute fringes of woke progressivism – beginning with the Sant’Egidio Group – has completely distanced them from regular Catholics, arousing in them an comprehensible disgust. Simply as Bergoglio’s commercial on the Sunday Angelus for the Italian TV present Che tempo che fa, the place a employed Fabio Fazio has simply celebrated the felony Invoice Gates by presenting him as a benefactor of humanity, additional delegitimizes the Papacy.

DiA: There are additionally a whole lot of thousands and thousands of {dollars} doled out to the “evangelical church buildings,” at all times with the identical functions.

CMV: Bergoglian prelates and bishopesses, such because the Episcopalian Marian Budde of Washington Nationwide Cathedral, are in settlement with one another on two factors: apostasy in issues of the Religion and a corresponding lust for cash and energy. Their ecumenism is finally motivated solely by the will to share the spoils, and within the face of this all Religion dogmas will be modified. They speak to us about poverty even from the pulpits – remodeling Klaus Schwab’s motto You Received’t Have Something and You’ll Be Glad in a pauperist key – they usually change into accomplices of those that make us poor with scandalous hypothesis and fraud; within the meantime they shamelessly revenue from distress and the crises they trigger. Thus, whereas the trustworthy have been terrified by psychopandemic propaganda and have been informed they might not go to Mass in the event that they weren’t vaccinated, the Holy See acquired beneficiant donations from BigPharma to host its conferences within the Vatican, and Bergoglio improvised himself as a salesman for dangerous and lethal vaccines, produced with aborted human fetuses, all with the placet of the previous Holy Workplace then directed by the Jesuit Ladaria. It was “an act of affection,” Bergoglio mentioned, whereas Melinda Gates opened an account with the Vatican Financial institution. In the meantime, Bergoglio was already talking of “Mom Earth” – coincidentally, the Pachamama – of “sins in opposition to the atmosphere,” and of the urgency of switching to renewable vitality.

The ethical prostitution of those characters doesn’t shrink from something, if there may be cash at stake: in the US there are over 150 “Catholic” clinics that carry out gender transition surgical procedures (genital mutilation) funded by the federal government, and God solely is aware of how a lot cash Catholic hospitals took in the course of the psychopandemic farce as fee for killing sufferers with deadly therapies, or for inoculating folks with a lethal or severely disabling gene serum. Moreover, for every “vaccine” administered there was a bonus that inspired and legitimized any aberration: and this was the case in every single place, with a single script underneath a single path.

DiA: For sure, these actions don’t have anything Catholic about them, and the apostolate, preaching, non secular instruction, the care of souls, and the celebration of the Sacraments are usually not of the least concern for these temple retailers.

CMV: Funding given for the implementation of the Agenda 2030, for spreading woke propaganda, or for ethnic substitute is the brand new thirty items of silver with which the brand new globalist Sanhedrin pays these new Judases to ship over, not the Lord, however His trustworthy, His ministers, His Mystical Physique. And like Iscariot – whom Bergoglio considerably proposes as a mannequin – they too are apostles, albeit renegades, however at all times in a really perfect line of “apostolic succession” with the mercator pessimus.

One truth is nevertheless clear: all of the programmatic factors that the emails of Hillary Clinton’s adviser, John Podesta, hoped for as reforms of a “springtime of the Church” are actually slavishly carried out by the motion of Bergoglio and his acolytes. I very a lot hope that the brand new Director of the CIA will wish to confirm the existence of a deep state plan for the elimination of Benedict XVI in an effort to have an emissary from the Davos elite on the Throne of Peter.

DiA: Your Excellency, how can we get out of this deadlock of corruption and conflicts of curiosity?

CMV: It’s tough, humanly talking, to think about a peaceable or short-term manner out. It appears clear to me that Western society has now reached that stage of decadence that normally preludes the decline of a civilization. It has already occurred up to now, for instance with Rome, whose empire dissolved as a result of corruption and vices of its leaders. Evidently the position of the West is exhausted, at the least of this West that’s apostate and rebellious. However the Catholic Church doesn’t observe the dynamics of a human kingdom and has a divine mission – and divine help – that enables her to face even the passio Ecclesiæ that has already begun.

This consciousness should not lead us both to contemplate the Church as a merely human society, or to attribute to the Church, which is holy, the sins with which her unworthy ministers are stained. The evil we see round us should be denounced and fought in opposition to, however at all times within the conviction that the Bride of the Lamb, nevertheless humiliated, nevertheless disfigured by her tormentors, stays the one Ark of salvation on this world.